Extinguishing the Fires of Twin Flames and the Occult with the Living Waters of Christ: An Interview with Daniella Mora
Today I chat with former psychic medium, reiki practitioner and witch Daniella Mora.
Daniella’s family of origin brought several different influences into her early childhood. Her father was a Christian who read her the Bible and taught her to pray. Daniella’s mother introduced her to Wicca and several other New Age practices later on.
A truth seeker who wanted to connect with God, Daniella explored Roman Catholicism, Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses and attended several types of Pentacostal churches. Led into the world of the occult in her first serious relationship, Daniella eventually landed in the New Age as a psychic reader and became involved in a Twin Flame relationship.
Still not finding what she is seeking and enduring intense spiritual attacks along the way Daniella finally cries out one night asking God to show her the truth. What follows is her salvational encounter with Jesus Christ, repentance for her sins and the walk of faith she is on as a Christian woman today having had the fires of twin flames and the occult extinguished with the Living Waters of Jesus Christ.
I hope you enjoy my conversation with Daniella Mora
From the Haze of Yoga Occultism to Christ: An Interview with author and former New Age Seeker Tara Chelioudakis
Tara is a former New Age seeker who found salvation in Christ after researching and discovering the deceptive and evil Occultism rooted in the practice of Yoga.
The peace and well-being that Tara initially experienced in her Yoga and meditation practice eventually gave rise to multiple alarming experiences including sleep paralysis, astral projection, demonic visions, being taken over by an invisible presence and a full blow Kundalini awakening.
Thankfully this all lead her into praying to Jesus and a deep desire to know who God was.
In desperation Tara asks Jesus to reveal his truth to her which leads to her encounter with him, her born again experience and her release from the bondage Yoga occultism.
However, Tara’s frightening journey was not over just yet.
Returning to the NAR church she had been attending for some time while on her Yoga journey, Tara finds herself trapped in the cycle of seeking mystical experiences through encounters with the false Holy Spirit, and ends up enduring more of the same kind of experiences she’d prior to her salvation. She even finds herself striving to attain the gift of tongues.
Tara has written a book called: The Narrow Path: Escaping the Grips of Deception While Discovering His Way, Life and Truth, in which she recounts her journey and her experiences, her research into Yoga, the New Apostolic Reformation movement and much more and shares how she made her way out of the deception, on to the narrow path and back to the peace of Jesus Christ.
I hope you enjoy my conversation with Tara!
In the middle of the night on March 18, 2019, after years practicing in the New Age I had a profound and personal encounter with Jesus Christ. My life was instantly transformed. I was saved by grace through my salvational faith in Christ and I surrendered my life to Jesus.
As an ex-New Ager who gave up my entire career as a psychic-medium, mentor and blogger I had some “Woah, wait a minute, what NOW?” moments after I was born again. I was used to daily doing, working, teaching and blogging in the New Age.
Now I found myself wondering: What is God’s plan for me? What job does God want me to be ‘doing’ now?
I was so ready to take on whatever God wanted me to do. I was newly saved and believed that I had to begin doing whatever I could to help other New Agers come to Christ. I had lots of newly opened up space that I was in ‘hurry up’ mode to fill in working for God.
I soon discovered that God had a different plan. He knew best how that space in my life was to be filled. He showed me that surrendering everything to God - my future, my provision and my livelihood was my only ‘job’.
Which took me into, what one of my dearest Christian sisters calls a “healthy isolation”.
Does this sound like you? Are you an ex-New Ager saved by Christ wondering… what now? What does God want you to do? What is His plan for you? What calling does God have for you?
Seeing things through God’s eyes instead of our own:
Being a Christian means that you are walking ever more each day in the Spirit while still being in the flesh. This is the process of sanctification. And because Satan calls the shots in this world this is not an easy task. We undertake a daily process of making the shift from living a carnal, worldly life to a life guided by the Holy Spirit the way Jesus did.
To do this we need to transition into a place of seeing the things going on in our lives through God’s eyes instead of through our fleshly, worldly eyes.
This means that there will be many times when we think we are supposed to ‘go’ but God call us to ‘stop’ and when we think we’re supposed to stop, and instead God calls us to go. We may want to run before we have even learned to walk. Yes, indeed, God has a plan for each and every one of us, but we need to start at the beginning first. We are babies in need of guidance and our Father in Heaven has given us what we need to access this guidance. We can’t just run ahead without instruction and integration of what happened for us when we were born again.
Without the proper foundation in place we risk being, as Ephesians 4:14 says: “tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes…”
2 John 1:10 tells us: “Everyone who goes on ahead and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God. Whoever abides in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.”
How does God call us to lay the correct foundation for our journey walking with Christ? He calls us to begin our journey doing these five things:
1. Renew Our Minds
Romans 12:2 tells us - “Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
Though it is imperative that every new Christian begins the process of renewing her mind right from the get go, as someone who has been in the New Age and has become particularly attuned to the world spirit, (albeit the wrong one), renewing your mind to learn and then be able to conform with what God’s will is for you is of the utmost importance and to be undertaken without delay.
We are going to be tested a lot by the world and its ways especially as the enemy ramps up his attempts to thwart and deceive all new Christians and, because of our backgrounds and the way that we received guidance through invisible sources, we as former New Agers are particularly vulnerable to being deceived by false spirits posing as the Holy Spirit.
Your old ways must be worked out of you. And for this to happen you must immerse yourself into God’s word. You must allow the Bible to inform your journey at every turn as a Christian. And the only way that you can do that is to read God’s word.
I have come across many former New Agers who are born again and believe that doing the will of God is simply a matter of switching who they are ‘listening’ to from the false spirits they once heard to ‘listening’ to the Holy Spirit. And listening to the Holy Spirit happens exactly the same way it did in the New Age.
What these people don’t understand is that the primary way Christians ‘hear’ the Holy Spirit is through reading scripture. And if we think we are ‘hearing’ the Holy Spirit through our old ways - for instance through our clairs - we need to search the scriptures measuring what we think we’ve heard against the God’s word for the truth of it. Every single time. Anything you think you have heard from the Holy Spirit cannot go against the word of God. Otherwise it is not from God.
New Agers are accustomed to seeking and having supernatural experiences which can be quite exciting and dramatic.
That is not the way that it works with the Holy Spirit. If you are lead to believe that it is you are being led down the wrong path. “Charismania” is an example of this. You can learn some more about Charismania in this brief YouTube video HERE.
A Christians primary access to the Holy Spirit is through their Bibles.
Galatians 5:22-23 tells us what the fruits of the Holy Spirit are: “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law. And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.”
And that includes the passions and desires for supernatural exciting experiences.
John 14:26 - “But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.”
All that Jesus said to us is in the Bible.
A new Christian receives boundless growth, gifts and blessings through reading the word of God. Commit and set aside time each and every day to read the Bible. It may feel like a chore at first, but it is totally worth it, so stick with it. As you continue to read the Holy Spirit will begin working with you illuminating the scriptures. This is how the Holy Spirit works. Verses that once were difficult to understand will all of a sudden mean so much to you, so much so that you’ll wonder why you didn’t see it that way before.
The enemy wants nothing more than to try to keep you out of scripture where he knows that your heart and mind will be renewed in truth as God speaks to you and the Holy Spirit illuminates God’s word for you. Therefore, the enemy will present you with all kinds of reasons why you cannot find the time and place all sorts of distractions in your way to keep you away from scripture. This can include the enemy trying to make you believe that you can learn the Bible by listening to YouTube teachers, watching videos, reading books by popular “Christian” authors about the Bible (false teacher Beth Moore for example - yes she is a false teacher and you need to know that right off the top) and by listening to sermons instead of reading the Bible for yourself.
One word: RESIST. James 4:7 says - “Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded.”
Resist the enemy’s deceptions, lures and distractions, dump the “no time” excuses, and keep on reading the Bible. This is spiritual warfare at work. Take up the armor of God (Ephesians 6:12). “Take up the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.”
You will come to know God the Father and Jesus Christ as you “hear” their voices in the scripture because the Bible is God speaking to directly to you. On those awesome pages God’s will and plan for you will be also revealed.
Eventually you’ll find yourself craving time reading the Bible. So pick up your Bible and commit to the daily practice of reading God’s word in order to renew your mind so you can “discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.”
Philippians 4:6 - “Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.”
Daily prayer is one of the most important things that all Christians can do and must make time for. You have been given the gift of a personal, one to one relationship, through your savior Jesus Christ, with God the Father. Talk to him!
Praying according to God’s will is a remarkable and amazing journey.
One of the greatest joys of a new Christian is starting to see your prayers answered when you do this. Renewing your mind by reading the Bible clearly reveals God’s will to you so that you can then start to pray according to God’s will. God promises to answer prayers that are prayed in accordance with his will and plan. And that might not always look like what we think it should look like. But God’s will be done. Matthew 6:10 - “Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.”
1 John 5:14 - “And this is the confidence that we have toward him, that if we ask anything according to his will he hears us.”
Matthew 6:6 - “But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you.”
Luke 11:9 - “And I tell you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you.”
1 Timothy 2:1-4 - “First of all, then, I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people, for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way. This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”
Colossians 4:2 - “Continue steadfastly in prayer, being watchful in it with thanksgiving.”
Make time with God in prayer THE priority in your life.
3. Get Baptized
Acts 22:16 - “…Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name.”
Getting Baptized is a very important step in the life of a new Christian. Not only was it the public declaration of my new life in Christ, after I was Baptized my experience of the Holy Spirit working in my life and illuminating scripture literally increased exponentially.
In Matthew 3:16 we see that even Jesus, himself, was baptized:
“And when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and coming to rest on him.”
After being born again some people get baptized right away. Being without a church when I was saved, I prayed for God to guide me to the church where he wanted me to be baptized. Seven months later I walked into that church and was fully immersed into water by my new pastor with the congregation and my husband bearing witness.
1 John 5:7-8 speaks to the threefold testimony of the precious gift of salvation through the Son of God:
“For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree.”
Salvation involves these three: being saved by the blood that Christ shed for us on the cross in bearing our sin, being in-dwelled by the Holy Spirit and being baptized in water. As that scripture says: these three agree. This scripture demonstrates why baptism is so important.
If you are already involved with a church go ahead, talk to your pastor and arrange to be baptized as soon as you can. If you are not connected with a church family or it is not immediately obvious where and when is the right time for you to get baptized, pray to God for his guidance and leading. Don’t leave getting baptized out of your salvation experience. Trust in God. He’ll get you there. And he will bless you for following his guidance.
4. Seek church fellowship with other Christians
Having supportive Christian brothers and sisters in your life is very important for all Christians, and most especially for the new Christian. It is other born again Christians who truly understand what happened for you when you were saved by Jesus.
Hebrews 10:24-25 - “And let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works, not neglecting to meet together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another, and all the more as you see the Day drawing near. “
Christians gather together in church to pray, worship, learn, teach, edify one another, bear each other’s burdens, support one another and share the Lord’s supper as a group of God’s children coming together in remembrance of what Jesus Christ did for us on the cross.
You need to have other believers in your life and the best way to do this is to find a biblically and doctrinally sound church where you can fellowship each week with other Christians. Coming together in fellowship is not just a passing suggestion from God, it is a command. The churches all together make up the body of Christ:
1 Corinthians 12:12 - “For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ.”
Pray asking God to guide you to the right church for you and he will. This will most likely involve visiting several different churches to see how they each do things. Be faithful in prayer on this matter and the way you’ll know when God has brought you to the church where he wants you to be is that that church is totally Christ centered.
It is very important to keep in mind that no church is perfect so there will very likely be some things about the church you eventually become a part of around which you will need to extend patience, love and grace. Perhaps your pastor doesn't have perfect grammar when he preaches or the worship music might be a bit wobbly compared to another church’s music. You are not choosing a church for the music or the grammar. That your church is Biblically sound is the most important thing you need in a church so as long as that is in place, you’ll learn to extend grace with regards to the other less important things that don’t quite fit together with your view of a perfect church.
God may not give you the perfect church but he will give you the church that you need to help you grow as a Christian. Yes… he does this! Trust that God knows just what you need in a church. The men and women in your church are your brothers and sisters, your family in Christ. Treat them as you would with all the love, patience and kindness you show your own family. Love them warts and all.
First and foremost what you need to look for in a potential church is that it is Jesus Christ centered and the preacher, a demonstrably Godly man, teaches the Bible from the Bible, therefore basing all of his teachings squarely where they need to be: in the scriptures.
Two things that should give you cause for pause and keep you on the search for the right church are: first, if the church allows women to preach to the congregation - both men and women - which is in direct contradiction with scripture (1 Timothy 2:12). Women are allowed to teach other women so Bible study led by a woman is totally fine. The second is if the church’s focus, rather than being on Jesus Christ, is on something else, such as attracting prosperity into your life, or a flashy stage show worship band taking centre stage for just a couple of the many possible examples.
A good Christian church eats, breathes and sleeps Jesus Christ, immersing you into the Bible each and every week, getting you to read right along while the pastor in the bible you bring to church with you, stirring your passion for the word and deepening your faith in God.
Pray that God connects you with a good church.
5. Share your testimony of salvation
The bible tells us over and over again that we are to share what God has done for us by saving us.
1 Peter 3:15 - “But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect.”
Psalm 107:2 - “Let the redeemed of the Lord say so.”
Mark 5:19 - “Go home to your friends and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.”
2 Timothy 1:8 - “Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord.”
1 John 5:11 - “And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.”
Every born again Christian has a testimony of how he and she came to be saved by Jesus Christ. And every new Christian can and absolutely should share her testimony with others, both Christians and non-believers. Your testimony is the one thing that you know intimately and can share and by doing so edify others by spreading the good news of what Christ came to do for the world.
As soon as you can, I encourage you to organize and put your story of salvation into words and be ready to share it on the spot with others!
There you have it. Five things that God absolutely calls you to do as a new Christian.
A big caution: Though in today’s social media saturated world you might think you're God given calling is to start your own YouTube ministry right after you’ve been saved, especially when you have been actively teaching and guiding others in the New Age, resist that temptation, because that leading is not coming from God.
I have witnessed ministries started too soon by ex-New Agers go off the rails very quickly because they fall into the trap of teaching false and unsound doctrine. This is disastrous for both the teacher and the those who follow such a teacher who are being mislead.
When you are ready to rely on the Bible as your one and ONLY source of guidance and wisdom, then you are ready to start working with other people to help them know more about Jesus Christ because you will be sharing the Gospel - the word of Christ - with them.
Dedicating yourself to doing these five things God calls you to as a new Christian will put the correct biblical foundation squarely in place right at the beginning of your beautiful walk with Jesus Christ. It will also help you to gradually grow your ability to discern God's truth from the deception of the enemy.
So... dear new sister in Christ... I welcome you on your glorious walk with Jesus. If I can support you in any way don’t hesitate to reach out to me at email@example.com.
There are many false teachers holding themselves out a Christians today spreading their false doctrines online via websites, Facebook or Twitter pages and / or a YouTube teaching ministry.
False teachers are not only a probability, they are a certainty in the church today. So much so that chances are high that you will be exposed to one or more of them. If you are listening to Christian teachers and have not yet identified any of them as false it is less likely that’s because you have not come across one and much more likely that you are falling for what they are teaching without even realizing that it is false.
We are not only told in the Bible by Jesus and the Apostles about false teachers, their emergence in the church is a promise, as we read in Mark 13:22-23:
“For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform signs and wonders, to lead astray, if possible, the elect. But be on guard; I have told you all things beforehand.”
I came into the sphere of influence of a false teacher two months after my conversion. This is not an uncommon for new converts. It’s natural for those newly saved to seek support, want to learn more about God, listen to sermons and fellowship with other Christians online. With the availability of what is online these days, and how virtually anyone can and will hold himself out as a Christian teacher, discernment is not a luxury, it is an imperative.
False teachers can be difficult to recognize in the moment, however, time, scrutiny of their teachings and discernment will reveal whether or not someone is a false teacher. As the Bible says they will be known by their fruit. Not the fruit of large followings or ministry quantity but by the fruits of the quality of what they teach.
Here are five marks that reveal a false teacher:
1. False teachers teach from their own wisdom instead of the Word of God
And with their own wisdom they lead people away from the Gospel. Even when they do use the word of God they twist its interpretation to suit their own needs.
Here is the Gospel in a nutshell as spoken in 1 Corinthians 14:1-2 -
“Now I would remind you, brothers, of the gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, if you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of first importance what I also received: that Christ died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures…”
Notice the “in accordance with the Scriptures” here. The apostles always taught in accordance with the Scriptures.
What should every teacher be teaching if they claim to be teaching in the name of Jesus Christ? Simple: Christ died for me.
False teachers mix their own foolishness into their message contradicting the essence of the Gospel and reducing their doctrine to deception.
The bible also says this about those people who seek out and listen to false teachers:
2 Timothy 4:3-4 -
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”
This scripture points out that people will search out false teachers because they don’t want to hear what the word of God has to say. People love their sin and do not want to be convicted of it. The Bible puts your sin straight in your face and convicts you of it. This is a turn off for many people hence why they are drawn to teachers who tickle their ears by telling them what they would rather hear than what the Bible actually says.
False teachers - one of the most famous examples of which is Joel Osteen - cater to those who do not want to here the Gospel straight up, but would rather hear a watered down version that suits their fancies and desires while thinking and even maintaining that they are good Christians.
“Pay careful attention to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God, which he obtained with his own blood. I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them.”
Here Paul is warning that false teachers will invade the body of Christ - wolves, as he calls them - who will teach twisted things - doctrines that contradict the Word of God - in order to take disciples away from Christ.
Here the apostle John tells us how we are to discern if a teacher is a true or false one:
1 John 4:1-3
“Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.”
The apostle John warns us not to believe everything that we hear, but, instead to test the spirits to make sure what we hear is coming from God.
The spirit that guides a true Christian teacher is God’s Holy Spirit, therefore everything that teacher says can be measured “by the book”, which means it will be substantiated as true through scripture in the Bible. It won’t be even a “little bit off” and if it is then it as a false teaching.
Galatians 5:9 says
“A little leaven leavens the whole lump”.
Leaven is a metaphor for sin.
False teachers are skillful at weaving lies - lies are sin - together with truth. In fact a false teacher tells as much truth as he can which is why he is so deceptive and discerning him can be so difficult. The Bible warns us, however, that even the smallest lie - a little leaven - in a teaching means that whole teaching must be thrown out because it leavens the whole lump - invalidates the entire teaching. One lie mixed into a teaching turns that teaching into deception which contradicts the word of God.
Yes, teachers can and do make mistakes and may unwittingly mix an untruth into their teaching every now and then. A true teacher, however, will correct her lie making sure that everyone knows that she understands what she has done and will have no qualms admitting and correcting her mistake. A false teacher rejects correction holding fast to her claim that her teaching is without error and will usually fall back on emphasizing the truth she has used in her teaching ignoring or diverting away from the lies she’s included and will not repent.
How are we to “test the spirits” as John warns us above?
Is the source the Word of God: Is the teacher quoting scripture straight from the Bible to support and back up her teachings? Or is she pitching wordy, eloquent arguments to press her point? Is she clearly laying out her teaching and supporting each and every aspect of it with God’s word? If not she is not teaching from the guidance of the Holy Spirit, but rather a false spirit. If she actually is a Christian but doesn’t know how to support her teaching with ample scripture then she is not ready to be teaching and therefore should not be leading others.
Does the teaching hold up to scripture? True teachers use scripture as their source, include that scripture in their teachings and allow the word itself to interpret the word, not their opinions. Not so with false teachers, which means we will need to test it for ourselves.
Rather than the word of God is the teacher using his own wisdom, arguments and opinions? A true teacher in Christ does not do this. Run the other way.
Is the teacher claiming to have received “personal” or “special” revelations directly from God? These “revelations” must be able to be completely substantiated by scripture. No “revelation” can stand on its own and if a teacher does not back up a personal revelation with the necessary scripture that validates it, then he is a false teacher.
The Bible tells us what will happen to those who try to add to or take away from the Word of God:
”I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.”
#2: False teachers seek gain.
And that gain is not just monetary. They are also eager to gain followers, loyalty, fame, influence, power and / or authority over people.
Rather than putting Jesus Christ first, a false teacher puts herself, her ambitions and her desires to win people over to keep them coming back for more first. This is where the ‘passion’ of the teacher and the appearance that she is teaching in the name of Jesus Christ can make it very difficult to discern her as false just by watching and listening to her. A well known example of this is Joyce Meyer. The demon influencing and leading false teachers is very savvy and subtly deceptive. That is precisely why everything they say must be measured against the word of God.
Gaining a loyal following that she could influence quickly quickly revealed as the primary motivation for the false teacher I was involved with for four months. She fostered a dependency upon her in her followers rather than urging them to seek God’s word of truth as their sole source of guidance and wisdom. She consistently demonstrated a need to be the centre of attention, to be seen as the wide leader and was put on a pedestal by many of the people in the group. Though she denied this was what she wanted (the devil doth protest to much?), her actions belied her words.
Carefully consider the teachers you are listening to see if they show signs of teaching or speaking for the sake of some sort of gain, be it monetary, a following, influence, etc. Jesus, himself, warns us to count the cost of following him and makes it very clear that to take his word out into the world - to be one of his disciples - means to give up gain of any kind, personal or otherwise.
“Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple.”
and Luke 14:33
“So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.”
False teachers steer clear of scriptures such as the two above. Christ means what he says. If gain of any kind is your game you are not a disciple of Jesus Christ. Plain, clear and simple.
Titus 1:10 tells us -
“They (false teachers) must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach.”
Teachers who fail to put the Gospel of Jesus Christ first and instead act out of self interest deny Jesus’ teachings. No one who is genuinely discipling and sharing the Gopsel according to Jesus Christ is in it for gain. In fact it is quite the opposite. They are willing to lose everything for Jesus Christ.
“Then Jesus told his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.”
Beware, discern and leave those self-seeking false teachers behind to find true teachers in the name of Jesus Christ.
3. False teachers mask their deception with personality.
Personality, charisma, dramatic flare, many words, big talk and eloquence are all indicators of a false teacher who is using these devices to try to capture your attention and entertain you. Passion may certainly be displayed by a true teacher, however, the word of God is squarely at the centre and is the foundation of his teachings and he will be supporting his teachings with lots of scripture.
I heard a false teacher recently tell his audience that he had so much to say on the topic he was teaching about that it could fill eight to ten books. What??? Sounds rather lofty to me. There are already sixty-six amazing books at his disposal. What else could this teacher possibly add?
False teachers are incapable of bringing a consistent and true interpretation of scripture and instead hide their false doctrines behind charisma and clever arguments. Their arguments might sound clever, however, they do not help people or deepen the Biblical understanding of those who listen to them, instead they are designed to win the listener over to the false teachers opinions and false doctrine.
We don’t need charismatic, clever men and women telling us clever things. We need scripture. We don’t need a clever teacher’s eight or ten books filled with clever arguments that lead us away from the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. God has given us everything that we need in the Bible.
1 Corinthians 2:1-5
“And I, when I came to you, brothers, did not come proclaiming to you the testimony of God with lofty speech or wisdom. For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness and in fear and much trembling, and my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.”
Here apostle Paul speaks straight to that fact that there is no need for lofty speech or wisdom. The message is simple and he sticks to it even through his fear and trembling. That is the hallmark of a true teacher.
The Bible also tells us in Titus 1:10
“For there are many who are insubordinate, empty talkers and deceivers… They must be silenced, since they are upsetting whole families by teaching for shameful gain what they ought not to teach.”
True teachers, even when they are passionate for the word of God exhibit a humility when they teach that shines through. Their focus is on the word of God, not on their personality or sense of humor or telling stories that have little to do with scripture or are inserted to tickle your ears.
True teachers are not know-it-alls that teach from their own thoughts and ideas, they rely totally on the message of the word of God - Christ’s truth in its purity and simplicity - in their teachings, not on big words, showmanship, or attempts to evoke some kind of emotional response from their audience.
Your discernment radar should jump right up when you encounter a teacher who uses these tactics.
4. False teachers criticize the faithful.
When faced with correction from concerned Christians within the body of Christ false teachers rebel, cry persecution and belittle the Christians who try to correct their teaching, often resorting to accusing them of being “legalists” and condemning them for being overly attached to the word of God.
Problem with this is false teachers don’t know what true legalism is and most false teachers, themselves are legalists because they bend and twist scripture to fit their own needs. I will be addressing the topic of legalism in a separate post / podcast very soon.
Correcting false teaching using the power and authority of God’s word is not legalism, folks. False teachers are being deceptive when they accuse the faithful of being legalists. No surprise there.
Paul says of those people teaching in the name of Christ in Titus 1:9
“He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.”
Christians are instructed to hold firm to the word of God in their teachings and to rebuke those who don’t.
The mark of a true teacher: accepting rebuke coming from within the body of Christ, considering why she is receiving it, turning to the word of God for the truth and repenting, thus acknowledging her mistake and changing her ways.
False teachers hate to be rebuked. They rebel. They don’t repent.
5. False Teachers exploit their followers
False teachers take advantage of their followers weaknesses, ignorance, immaturity, greed, even their lust. They play on their followers need for a leader who will give them what they want instead of need. The less their followers know, the less motivated to seek out the truth they are, the more they want their ears tickled or to be entertained instead of given the truth, the better it is for the false teacher.
2 Timothy 4:3-4
“For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.”
Having said that there are, unfortunately, people who really do want to know Christ’s truth who are also being mislead by false teachers. Christians need to step up and pray to God to be granted the wisdom, faith and knowledge necessary to suss out the truth from the lies. Discernment is not an option, it is an imperative. Satan wants nothing more than to take the whole body of Christ down and drag as many people as he can to hell with him and he uses false teachers to help him do that.
The quality of the teaching that you avail yourself of is your responsibility. Ask God to guide you to true Christian teachers. Listen and watch teachers carefully. Measure what teachers say against the word of God. Research the teacher as thoroughly as you can to see what other information you can find out about them. Are others, like me for example, questioning the validity of that teacher in blog articles, YouTube videos. etc? There is probably a very good reason for that. Take note and find out why so you can make an informed decision.
False teachers have always been in the church and they will be until Christ returns. Knowing their marks and their methods and measuring what they teach at all times will always expose them for who they are. Our responsibility as Christians is clear: hold fast to what is true, and reject and deny what is false.
Discern. Leave behind all false teachers. Seek those who teach Christ’s truth sharing the Gospel just as Christ spoke it to us. We need nothing more or nothing less as Christians.
The whole world has been affected by the COVID-19 virus and the reactions to it run the gamut from rampant fear to complete denial.
I used try to discern the deeper truths in dramatic world events such as this one. From the AIDS epidemic first reported in 1981, to September 11, 2001 and the horrific events 911, and all the smaller national and international events in between, I watched and analyzed noting how the world was transformed by changes impressed deeply into the fabric of the way things are done, at many levels especially at the governmental levels. I reacted in the same ways that those around me did, becoming baffled, confused, afraid.
I think most baby-boomers and those born in the years after can safely say that nothing on a scale such as this COVID-19 pandemic has ever been seen before in our lifetime. The measures taken have virtually paralyzed the globe.
This time for me, however, my experience of it is completely different.
Because I surrendered my life to Christ in March 2019.
I have a history of embracing the things that I explore in my life full on with passion and intensity.
Yup... I did the same thing after my encounter with Christ. Though my conversion took me by surprise in so many ways, I embraced Him fully, completely, passionately and surrendered everything into His hands.
I'm crazy (in a good way turns out) that way.
Nothing has been the same for me since. Even when things around me are in upheavel or I am dealing with difficulty or uncertainty I have the underlying peace and joy of knowing Christ is with me through it all firmly in my heart.
Philippians 4:6-7 - "...do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus."
I don't need to try to make sense of things or figure out what the long term effects are going to be. I have a personal relationship with God the Father and creator of the Universe. I am never alone. There is nothing that I need to do to fix anything. I place everything into God's hands.
For real folks...
Luke 12:22-30 - “Therefore I tell you, do not be anxious about your life, what you will eat, nor about your body, what you will put on. 23 For life is more than food, and the body more than clothing. 24 Consider the ravens: they neither sow nor reap, they have neither storehouse nor barn, and yet God feeds them. Of how much more value are you than the birds! 25 And which of you by being anxious can add a single hour to his span of life? 26 If then you are not able to do as small a thing as that, why are you anxious about the rest? 27 Consider the lilies, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin, yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 28 But if God so clothes the grass, which is alive in the field today, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith! 29 And do not seek what you are to eat and what you are to drink, nor be worried. 30 For all the nations of the world seek after these things, and your Father knows that you need them. 31 Instead, seek his kingdom, and these things will be added to you."
Things for me now are a far cry from how they were when I was in the New Age movement.
At this point on my journey I cannot even imagine what it would be like to be facing this pandemic without Jesus Christ or to be fielding the concerns of people who are living in fear at this pivotal time - or any time for that matter. Depending on guidance from unseen forces to provide answers to questions for which there are no answers. Bringing through a good word from a dead relative. Looking to 'source' and 'universal' energies. And other stuff like that...
Frankly looking back, it is all so futile. The cycle always begins again, more fear, more need, more things to do, more psychic sessions, more crystals and more seeking for the right answers, the way to happiness and to achieve contentment.
Around and around it goes.
I know for many of you this will not make any sense and it may very well annoy you if you've made it this far and that is OK. I am not trying to twist anyone's arm or come down hard on my readers who are not interested in what a gift it is to walk fully with Christ as a born again Christian.
It would be remiss of me, however, not to let you know how life transforms for those who receive Jesus Christ into their life through God's gift of grace.
Faith in God replaces despair, hope replaces confusion, God's grace and blessings great and small replace endless seeking, striving, doing and trying to be better. There is no need for advice from psychics or mediums, no need for meditations, ritual ceremonies, no need to follow the law of attraction, no need to try to look into a future you cannot control to see what might be ahead.
No need for any of that when you have a direct and personal relationship with the one true omniscient, omnipotent God who created everything and is in sovereign control over all.
You can relax and simply place it all into His hands. Even the Coronavirus.
Because.... God's got this.
Psalm 27:1 - "The Lord is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?
The Lord is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?"
When you're a born again Christian you are adopted into God's family. You've got God. A direct line to the sovereign God of the Universe awaits you through Jesus Christ.
John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life."
The world will be forever changed by this COVID-19 pandemic and things at all levels are not going to get any easier. They'll, in fact, get much more difficult.
Nothing going on here on earth is random. God is shaking up the world so that those He is drawing near to him will (hopefully!) wake up and heed the calling of His children home to Him through his Son, Jesus Christ.
Romans 8:28 - "And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose."
My urging to you at this crazy time: Get to know the real Jesus Christ and get to know Him now.
If you want to know more about Jesus please feel free reach out to me. It would be my joy to connect with you, show you where and how to start and answer any questions that you might have.
You can email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
I never thought that I would have to do a blog post like this, and frankly It grieves me to have to speak publicly on this matter.
Furthermore, I have done everything that I am instructed to do biblically in Matthew 18:15-22, in order to avoid bringing this matter out into the public forum, to no avail.
Christians are Biblically instructed to call out false teachers and false teaching when we see it. A person who is in ministry and is claiming to be so in the name of Christ and is teaching falsely in contradiction to the Bible, is in sin. When the Bible tells us not to do something and a person does it anyway, this is sin.
Therefore in this post I will be exposing false teacher, Michelle Manders.
In mid October 2019 I approached Michelle Manders privately, and standing on Scripture to substantiate my serious concerns about her false teachings. She angrily rejected it and instead accused me of being in sin.
Though I did not mention her by name, I did address her accusation publicly in my last podcast “Should a Born Again Wife Leave her Non-Christian Husband?”
After approaching her privately and being shut down, the biblical next step is to bring in two or three witnesses, which I did. She again completely refused to listen to what I had to say. If a fruitful conversation and the resultant change of mind, that is to say repentance does not happen at this stage then the Bible instructs me to bring the issue into the public forum.
Unfortunately, Michelle Manders is doing her false teaching in public and public sin requires public repentance.
1 Timothy 5:20:
“As for those who persist in sin, rebuke them in the presence of all, so that the rest may stand in fear.”
Furthermore, because of the public nature of her work I actually did not need to stand on Matthew 18:15-22 and could have gone public with my concerns immediately. But I did so out of respect for her and in hopes that this could be dealt with in private and not have to go public.
Michelle Manders is located in South Africa and has an online ministry that she promotes through her website, an Instagram account, two Facebook pages, a Twitter account and a YouTube account which boasts thirty three videos as of this expose. She persistently urges and requests that her material - her videos, blog posts, teachings, etc. - be spread far and wide as she pushes to grow her ministry.
She has called herself a teacher, leader and a shepherd and also refers to herself as deliverance and prayer warrior, a spiritual coach and mentor and a Christian inspirer expanding God’s kingdom. It is interesting to note that after I confronted her privately she replaced the word ‘teacher’ and with the words ‘Christian Inspirer’ on her Instagram account.
Michelle’s current offerings include teaching a Bible Foundations course, and also promoting what she refers to as Bondage Breakthrough Bloodline Curse Removal (in the name of Jesus Christ) packages. She also has a number of what she calls “Spiritually Sweet 2020” workshops available for sale on her website. Ironically she has entitled one of the video offerings soon to come alongside these workshops: “Love and Light Trap: How False Teachers and False Prophets Trap People.”
Michelle’s web bio notes that she became involved in the New Age as a career channel to ascended masters in 1996. She claims to have seen through the New Age deception in recent years and is now and I quote from her bio: “Standing in the truth of the Lord due to His disclosure to me…”
Her bio also states and again I quote: “I am a Prayer and Deliverance Warrior fulfilling our Sovereign Good God's Divine Plan for my life through Jesus Christ of Nazareth and in the process of registering Warriors for Jesus Christ Ministry (W4JC) as an NPO.”
And her bio states that she’s taking “our newly saved brothers and sisters leaving the new age, through deliverance and baptism under the authority of our Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth and the Holy Spirit of God.”
There are so many problems with what is said here it’s difficult to know where to start. Her written bio alone raises concerns around Michelle believing that she is receiving personal revelation from the Lord, potentially confusing salvation with the act of leaving the New Age and claiming that what she does is done on the authority of Jesus Christ.
Michelle also does not clarify whether or not she teaches only women as per Biblical instructions. I am not going to go into that point anymore in this expose, other than to briefly mention it here, because there are other very serious and much more harmful issues that need to be addressed.
(Update as of Nov 24/19: Michelle has changed her Bio subsequent to the publishing of this blog post / podcast, removing the statements that I noted were of concern and shut down her W4JC online group. She has also informed her followers that she is going to shut down her YouTube account and take her website behind a membership wall. Interesting. I will keep readers posted.)
I first learned about Michelle Manders during an online search in early June 2019. I reached out to her because I thought I might be interested in interviewing her for my Clairvoyance to Christ podcast because she represented herself as a convert to Christ from the New Age, which resonates with my own story.
Happy that I had reached out she promptly added me to her Warriors for Jesus Christ online chat group of about thirty five members - which, by the way, includes men - and plugged me into her nine month Spiritual Warfare 101 class that she was in the midst of teaching. This class was conducted as a weekly live online class via Zoom conferencing and a recording of each class and any other materials Michelle used were subsequently made available to the attendees for future study via email.
As I waded through the material on her website, her blog, her YouTube channel and listened to her Spiritual Warfare classes my discernment was kicked into high gear as serious red flags were being raised for me. Michelle’s teachings were revealing to be a mix of regurgitated extra-biblical material from other online sources peppered with some scripture verses, and to contain both bad hermeneutics - which is a fancy word for Biblical interpretation - and outright untruth in direct contradiction to the Bible.
Furthermore when teaching - or speaking on or about anything for that matter - Michelle is excessively verbose and weaves and spins very complicated metaphors and stories. Michelle does not express herself in simple sentences or even in paragraphs. She talks in pages and pages and pages.
About a month into my association with Michelle I decided to reach out to her with a couple of my initial concerns.
After a brief back and forth private conversation with Michelle, which was not fruitful, she promptly made a statement to the online Warriors for Jesus Christ group that she was withdrawing from group and leadership work and that the Spiritual Warfare 101 class she was teaching would continue but only as a recorded class.
It took mere days before Michelle postured herself as the leader of the online group once again.
Here are my nine major concerns about Michelle’s ministry:
1) Michelle fosters a dependency of her followers on her, rather than on the Word of God.
2) Michelle consistently claims to receive personal revelations from ‘the Lord’ that are in contradiction to Bible scripture. She shares these revelations with her online group, in her YouTube videos, on her blog and on her other social media.
3) In her recordings and videos Michelle consistently recites long, drawn out, repetitive prayers, some of which I have timed at over 30 minutes in length. Jesus taught us how to pray. Michelle does not follow Jesus’ guidance in any way regarding prayer. In fact she embodies exactly what is instructed against in Matthew 6:7-8: “And when you pray do not heap empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your father knows what you need before you ask him.”
4) Michelle mixes both lies and some truth into her teachings. Once deception has been woven into something a teacher says then everything that teacher has said needs to be completely discounted. Partial truth is not truth.
5) Michelle consistently asserts and perpetuates in her followers a belief that people in the New Age have different and special needs in coming out of the New Age to Christ than those who have been saved out of other life circumstances. This is a huge deception that is a belief straight out of the New Age. Everyone, in God’s eyes, is on the same level regardless of what types of sin that they have engaged in and been saved from. Sin is sin in God’s eyes and no one has needs that are more special than anyone else.
6) Michelle uses, and teaches others to use what I refer to as the “Bible 8 ball” method for consulting Scripture. She says repeatedly in her teachings that she asks God a question then randomly opens her Bible to see the answer that God has provided to her. This method, usually used by newly saved teenagers, is disgraceful in a teacher. At the very least it is an ignorant practice, and at its worst it is a New Age practice which treats the Bible as an oracle.
7) Michelle’s hermeneutics - that is to say her interpretation of scripture - is consistently just plain wrong. She takes scripture out of context and does not understand how to interpret it or, as it is commonly referred to in Christian Apologetics, to rightly divide the word.
8) Michelle practices what is known as Narcissistic Eisegesis which means forcing the Bible to mean something you already want it to mean by superimposing yourself into the meaning of the passage, rather than interpreting Scripture for what it means and says about God, and letting the Scripture simply speak for itself. In other words Michelle reads herself into the Bible. She did this to defend herself against my concerns, reading herself into the story of Jesus during his 40 days in the desert and comparing herself to Job in the Book of Job. This treatment of the Word dishonors God in the extreme.
9) And finally I see potential evidence of false conversion to Christ in Michelle’s presumed testimony of salvation. In several private conversations with Michelle, the dates that she was seemingly claiming to be born again, changed. She first offered a date in August 2017 then a second date in October 2018, then a date in February of 2019. A person genuinely born again in Christ is easily able to pinpoint at the very least the month and the year (usually the day as well) that this happened and this date does not shift and change. Michelle’s date of salvation is a moving target. There are several videos that she has up on YouTube that she calls testimonies but none of these points to a genuine born again experience with Jesus Christ. I have come to wonder, from listening to Michelle for a number of months if she is confusing being born again with her having given up her New Age practice. Which she actually clearly hasn’t done completely based on her behaviors and the way she is approaching things. This is very dangerous, indeed, because she might not be saved, yet she is claiming Christ in her ‘ministry' and is potentially misleading others into believing that she is a born again Christian.
All of these concerns can be substantiated as being wrong Biblically. I have included all of the Scripture that I use to substantiate my position on Michelle below this post.
After a particularly disturbing Spiritual Warfare 101 class that Michelle released to her followers on October 4, 2019, I knew that I had to approach her and deal directly and Scripturally with my grave concerns about her teaching and leading others.
In this particular class Michelle teaches outrageous and deceptive notions such as that the Holy Spirit wields a sledgehammer and advocating that her followers not seek Biblical counsel when going through a difficult time. She shares a number of personal and special revelations from the Lord. She claims to hear the Lord speaking to her directly then she uses the “8 ball” method - asking God a question then seeking validation by randomly opening her Bible. She talks on and on about what she refers to as “counterfeit conditioning” and "deconditioning processes" and claims that God has taught her these things.
The number of errors in this teaching were way too many to address, however, I prepared and sent a private Scripturally substantiated message to her, and implored her to stop teaching in sin. She in return made an erroneous accusation of sin on my part, and used narcissistic eisegesis (reading herself into the Bible), out of context scriptures, and special revelations from God to defend her position and her anger. She refused to stop teaching and shut the conversation down, emphatically stating that she “follows the Lord”.
God does not ‘speak’ to us through subjective voices, feelings, or experiences, then randomly point us to pages in the Bible where we think we might find his answers to our questions.
God speaks to us and teaches us through careful and purposeful study of his word. We do not base what we believe about God or what he is saying on our subjective “I think I heard him say that” experiences. What we believe about God must come from Scripture alone. Personal experiences can be evidence of the truth of rightly handled and understood Scripture, but not vice versa.
It is also not ok, nor are we instructed Biblically to read ourselves into scripture either, comparing ourselves to Jesus Christ or Job or any other person of the Bible so we can play the victim of a caring Biblical rebuke or rationalize our ways and errors and teach others to do the same by reading ourselves into the Bible. The Bible is a revelation of God not a revelation of us.
The correct method of teaching Scripture is through what is known as exegesis, which means taking scripture verses in context (not completely out of context which Michelle does constantly) and leading out of that scripture, teaching what it means.
Plainly stated Michelle’s ministry is a train wreck that is to be avoided at all costs. Unfortunately Michelle is operating in deception, is in direct contradiction to the Word of God and is still utilizing New Age practices.
Though her internet footprint is currently very tiny, she is on the push to grow her deceptive ministry, which is a big concern. The question of possible false conversion is also a serious one, however, even if Michelle is actually saved (which is a matter between her and God) she is obviously nowhere near ready to be teaching and leading others and she absolutely should not do so until she matures in her Christian faith and in her understanding of the word of God.
When I approached Michelle privately I did so in genuine concern and love urging her rectify this situation and out of love and concern for those who follow her I implored her to stop teaching and leading until she is ready to do so correctly. She flat out refused.
There are interesting indications that Michelle’s conscience may have been stirred regarding what I have addressed with regards to her teaching. She has removed the word teacher from her Instagram account and removed of the word Ministry from her website logo header. This all happened shortly after I confronted her.
However, regardless of the words she uses and the ones she takes away, Michelle is operating a Ministry in the name and under the authority of Jesus Christ. So playing semantics and trying to blithely sweep these issues under the rug will not cut it.
It’s my prayer that Michelle will get out from under the deception she is in, repent of the areas in which she is acting against Scripture, learn biblical hermeneutics so she can correctly handle God’s word, and thus be able to have a tremendous and doctrinally sound impact with her teaching.
I would love nothing more than to be able to highly recommend Michelle to others if she would do these things, clean up her act and start honoring God.
At this time I absolutely cannot do this. I emphatically suggest that as a Christian woman, a new convert or as a woman coming out of the New Age, please do not allow Michelle Manders to teach you anything.
Stay away from all of her offerings, including all current teachings and workshops on her website and her YouTube videos. She is dishonoring God and seriously misleading and deceiving people.
If Michelle Manders ceases to teach, coach and lead until she is ready to honor the God Word and do so correctly, in the name of Jesus Christ, removes all of her false and deceptive teachings from online access and repents publicly, I will happily take down this podcast and blog calling her out as a false teacher.
Until such time they will remain online as a warning to the church, the public and to women seeking Christian teachers.
See you next time.
Scripture that substantiates Michelle Manders' False Teaching
1. Michelle fosters a dependency of her followers on her, rather than on the Word of God.
Psalm 121:2 - My help comes from the LORD, Who made heaven and earth.
Psalm 130:6 - My soul waits for the Lord More than the watchmen for the morning; Indeed, more than the watchmen for the morning.
Isaiah 26:4 - Trust in the LORD forever, For in GOD the LORD, we have an everlasting Rock.
Isaiah 41:13 - For I am the LORD your God, who upholds your right hand, Who says to you, 'Do not fear, I will help you.'
Philippians 4:6 - Be anxious for nothing, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.
Hebrews 13:5-6 - Make sure that your character is free from the love of money, being content with what you have; for He Himself has said, "I WILL NEVER DESERT YOU, NOR WILL I EVER FORSAKE YOU," so that we confidently say, “The Lord is my helper, I will not be afraid. What will man do to me?”
1 Peter 5:6-7 - Therefore humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, that He may exalt you at the proper time, casting all your anxiety on Him, because He cares for you.
2. Michelle consistently claims to receive personal revelations from ‘the Lord’ that are in contradiction to Bible scripture. She shares these revelations with her online group, in her YouTube videos, on her blog and on her other social media.
2 Timothy 3:16 - All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work.
Romans 15:4 - For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
2 Peter 1:20 - Knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone's own interpretation.
Jeremiah 17:7-8 - But blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD, whose confidence is in him. They will be like a tree planted by the water that sends out its roots by the stream. It does not fear when heat comes; its leaves are always green. It has no worries in a year of drought and never fails to bear fruit.
1 Corinthians 4:6 - I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another.
Matthew 4:1-11 -
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And after fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. And the tempter came and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.” But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”Then the devil took him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written,“‘He will command his angels concerning you,’ and“‘On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.’” Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.”Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’” Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him.
Acts 17:11-12 - Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.
1 Timothy 4:13 - Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to exhortation, to teaching.
3. In her recordings and videos Michelle consistently recites long, drawn out, repetitive prayers, some of which I have timed at over 30 minutes in length. Jesus taught us how to pray. Michelle does not follow Jesus’ guidance in any way regarding prayer. In fact she embodies exactly what is instructed against in Matthew 6:7-8: “And when you pray do not heap empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your father knows what you need before you ask him.”
Matthew 6:5-15 - And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites. For they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by others. Truly, I say to you, they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will reward you. “And when you pray, do not heap up empty phrases as the Gentiles do, for they think that they will be heard for their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.
Mark1:35 - And rising very early in the morning, while it was still dark, he departed and went out to a desolate place, and there he prayed.
Matthew 14:23 - And after he had dismissed the crowds, he went up on the mountain by himself to pray. When evening came, he was there alone...
4. Michelle mixes both lies and some truth into her teachings. Once deception has been woven into something a teacher says then everything that teacher has said needs to be completely discounted. Partial truth is not truth.
Galatians 5:8-9 - This persuasion is not from him who calls you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump.
1 Corinthians 5:6 - Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump?
Jeremiah 23:16 - Thus says the Lord of hosts: “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you, filling you with vain hopes. They speak visions of their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.
2 Timothy 4:3-4 - For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
Acts 20:30-32 - And from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish every one with tears. And now I commend you to God and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up and to give you the inheritance among all those who are sanctified.
2 Peter 2:1-2 - But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of truth will be blasphemed.
Titus 1:9 - He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.
5. Michelle consistently asserts and perpetuates in her followers a belief that people in the New Age have different and special needs in coming out of the New Age to Christ than those who have been saved out of other life circumstances. This is a huge deception that is a belief straight out of the New Age. Everyone, in God’s eyes, is on the same level regardless of what types of sin that they have engaged in and been saved from. Sin is sin in God’s eyes and no one has needs that are more special than anyone else.
Galatians 3:28 - There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
Acts 10:34 - So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality”
Colossians 3:9-11 - Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator. Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all.
Romans 2:11 - For God shows no partiality.
Philippians 2:3 - Do nothing from selfish ambition or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves.
James 2:1 - My brothers, show no partiality as you hold the faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory.
1 Peter:1:17 - And if you call on him as Father who judges impartially according to each one's deeds
Romans 12:3 - For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.
6. Michelle uses, and teaches others to use what I refer to as the “Bible 8 ball” method for consulting Scripture. She says repeatedly in her teachings that she asks God a question then randomly opens her Bible to see the answer that God has provided to her. This method, usually used by newly saved teenagers, is disgraceful in a teacher. At the very least it is an ignorant practice, and at its worst it is a New Age practice which treats the Bible as an oracle.
Proverbs 2:1-6 -
My son, if you receive my words
and treasure up my commandments with you,
making your ear attentive to wisdom
and inclining your heart to understanding;
yes, if you call out for insight
and raise your voice for understanding,
if you seek it like silver
and search for it as for hidden treasures,
then you will understand the fear of the Lord
and find the knowledge of God.
For the Lord gives wisdom;
from his mouth come knowledge and understanding;
2 Timothy 2:15-16 - Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.
1 Timothy 1:6-7 - Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.
1 Timothy 1:8 - Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully...
Joshua 1:8 - This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.
7. Michelle’s hermeneutics - that is to say her interpretation of scripture - is consistently just plain wrong. She takes scripture out of context and does not understand how to interpret it or, as it is commonly referred to in Christian Apologetics, to rightly divide the word.
2 Timothy 2:15-16 - Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth. But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness
1 Timothy 1:6-7 - Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.
1 Timothy 6:3-5 - If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy craving for controversy and for quarrels about words, which produce envy, dissension, slander, evil suspicions, and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.
1 Timothy 1:5 - The aim of our charge is love that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
1 Timothy 1:8 - Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully,
1 Timothy 6:20-21 - Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,” for by professing it some have swerved from the faith.
2 Ephesians 5:27 - so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
2 Timothy 2:19 - But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.
Get wisdom; get insight;
do not forget, and do not turn away from the words of my mouth.
Do not forsake her, and she will keep you;
love her, and she will guard you.
The beginning of wisdom is this: Get wisdom,
and whatever you get, get insight.
8. Michelle practices what is known as Narcissistic Eisegesis which means forcing the Bible to mean something you already want it to mean by superimposing yourself into the meaning of the passage, rather than interpreting Scripture for what it means and says about God, and letting the Scripture simply speak for itself. In other words Michelle reads herself into the Bible. She did this to defend herself against my concerns, reading herself into the story of Jesus during his 40 days in the desert and comparing herself to Job in the Book of Job. This treatment of the Word dishonors God in the extreme.
2 Timothy 2:15 - Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.
John 5:39 - You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me
1 John 2:22 - Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.
And the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was given to him. He unrolled the scroll and found the place where it was written,
“The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor.”
And he rolled up the scroll and gave it back to the attendant and sat down. And the eyes of all in the synagogue were fixed on him. And he began to say to them, “Today this Scripture has been fulfilled in your hearing.”
9. And finally I see potential evidence of false conversion to Christ in Michelle’s presumed testimony of salvation. In several private conversations with Michelle, the dates that she was seemingly claiming to be born again, changed. She first offered a date in August 2017 then a second date in October 2018, then a date in February of 2019. A person genuinely born again in Christ is easily able to pinpoint at the very least the month and the year (usually the day as well) that this happened and this date does not shift and change. Michelle’s date of salvation is a moving target. There are several videos that she has up on YouTube that she calls testimonies but none of these points to a genuine born again experience with Jesus Christ. I have come to wonder, from listening to Michelle for a number of months if she is confusing being born again with her having given up her New Age practice. Which she actually clearly hasn’t done completely based on her behaviors and the way she is approaching things. This is very dangerous, indeed, because she might not be saved, yet she is claiming Christ in her ‘ministry' and is potentially misleading others into believing that she is a born again Christian.
1 Peter 1:13-15 - Therefore, preparing your minds for action, and being sober-minded, set your hope fully on the grace that will be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. As obedient children, do not be conformed to the passions of your former ignorance, but as he who called you is holy, you also be holy in all your conduct, since it is written, “You shall be holy, for I am holy.”
2 Timothy 2:19-21 - But God's firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.” Now in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and silver but also of wood and clay, some for honorable use, some for dishonorable. Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from what is dishonorable, he will be a vessel for honorable use, set apart as holy, useful to the master of the house, ready for every good work.
James 4:10 - Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will exalt you.
1 John 2:5-6 - But whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him: whoever says he abides in him ought to walk in the same way in which he walked.
1 John 3:9 - No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.
1 John 5:4-5 - For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?
A few weeks ago I was accused of living in sin because I, a born again Christian woman, am married to a man who practices astrology and therefore is practicing what is known in the Bible as idolatry.
The interesting thing about this accusation is that it came from a woman who 1) claims to be a born again Christian and 2) has a ministry through which she leads, teaches and coaches other people in the name of Jesus Christ.
Because of these two facts you’d think that she would know, then, what the Bible - the Word of God - says about this particular situation - when one spouse is a Christian and the other spouse is not.
I would expect this question from a non-Christian or a newly saved Christian but not from a self-professing Christian woman who is leading a ministry.
But, alas it came in the form of an accusation from a self-professing Christian woman who runs a teaching ministry who should know better. Go figure...
Now I want to be clear, I have no problem whatsoever, having a potential area of sin in my life pointed out to me by a fellow Christian. In fact, I welcome it. Done the the correct way - Biblically - it presents a tremendous opportunity for me to examine my life in that area, to reflect on the potential sin issue, to search the word of God for what He has to say about it and to seek Godly counsel from a church elder regarding the potential sin issue, if that is necessary.
A Christian brother or a sister, coming to me in love and concern for my behavior is a beautiful thing.
“Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.” Proverbs 27:17
Christians are expected to support, correct and sharpen one another. We are Biblically instructed to do so.
So, here, I am going to address what the word of God says about this issue of, what is known Biblically as being unequally yoked.
And I am doing this so that any woman listening to this or reading my blog who is either in this situation or expects to be in this situation because she is feeling called to Christ, but her spouse is not, can rest easy in God’s clear and thorough answer on this matter.
Let me lay out my own personal situation for you:
I was born again in Jesus Christ on March 18, 2019. I have been yoked with my husband, who is an astrologer, and therefore is an idolater, since Jan 30, 1993.
For 26 years we were equally yoked, both of us non-Christians and practicing in the New Age. Then I was born again in Jesus Christ this year. Which now means that we are no longer equally yoked.
The woman accusing me of being in sin was using this scripture passage from 2 Corinthians 6:14-15 to substantiate her accusation of sin:
“Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols?”
FYI, Belial is another name for Satan.
Context is very important when using scripture to correct another Christian. Context is ALWAYS important when using scripture, regardless of what you are trying to do with it.
This passage is found in the New Testament. The apostle Paul is talking to the church that he founded in Corinth. Paul has discovered some problems with this church and in this letter he is speaking to people who already are Christians, impressing upon them that, as Christians, they are not to choose to yoke unequally with unbelievers.
However, in my own case, when I yoked with my husband I was not a Christian.
Just after being born again in Christ, however, this unequal yoking was a serious concern for me as a new believer, as I suspect that it would be and is for other new believing wives married to non-believing husbands.
To find out how I was supposed to handle this situation I turned directly to God’s Word for his answer. God is awesome for so many reasons, not the least of which is he covers off and instructs us, in the Bible, on every possible eventuality in our lives. We just have to search the scripture for his answers.
I discovered God’s perfect model for marriage which is found in Gensis 2:24:
“Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.”
Then I discovered the instructions that have been provided in the Bible from God for those who are unequally yoked in 1 Corinthians 7:13-17:
“If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? Only let each person lead the life that the Lord has assigned to him, and to which God has called him. This is my rule in all the churches.”
Pretty straightforward don't you think? Even for the Bible.
Not only did I pour over God’s Word for his counsel and truth on this matter I also sought Biblical counsel from three different pastors to make sure that I fully understood the Word and knew what God was saying to me. All three of them pointed out that in the fullness of God’s word, God instructs me not to divorce my unbelieving husband.
They also pointed me to this scripture:
1 Peter 3:1-4: “Likewise, wives, be subject to your own husbands, so that even if some do not obey the word, they may be won without a word by the conduct of their wives when they see your respectful and pure conduct. Do not let your adorning be external - the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing that you wear - but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle heart and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious.”
It can be clearly seen from these scriptures that in God’s eyes husband and wife are one flesh. In fact this is God's own design. And this is the case regardless of whether or not they are equally or unequally yoked.
If a Christian chooses to marry a non-believer then he or she will need to be prepared to stay through thick and thin, sickness and in health, for better or worse and forsaking all others in order to obey the Word of God.
It can be very difficult for a Christian to be married to a non-Christian and that is the reason Paul says the things he does about not unequally yoking in 2 Corinthians 6:14-15.
1 Corinthians 7:13-17 clearly instructs me, the believing wife, to not divorce my unbelieving husband.
Christ, himself says this about divorce in Matthew 19:3-6:
“And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, ‘Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?’ He answered, ‘Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are not longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
From Christ's lips to our ears. It's a beautiful thing.
If my husband had chosen to divorce me because I became a Christian then I am instructed to let it be so and be in peace about it. It also states that by virtue of my being a believer my unbelieving husband is sanctified by God. I am to live the life that God has called me to in being one flesh with my husband. We were married twenty six years before I became a Christian. My husband has happily chosen to not divorce me. Therefore, I am not in sin in the eyes of God. I am in obedience to his will.
However, I absolutely would be in sin in God’s eyes if I chose to leave my husband. We are still together, and both very happy that we are.
I have also brought myself into alignment with 1 Peter 3:1-4 and have made myself subject to my husband even though he does not obey the word of God.
I am happy to report that since I have put myself in full submission to both God’s will in my situation and, as God instructs, in submission to my husband, God has been at work in my husband’s life in amazing ways and has been working in my life through my husband as well. My testimony in this regard grows every day.
As 1 Corinthians 7:15-16 states: “God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband?”
Confusion and error is the result when an enthusiastic but ill informed Christian takes scripture out of the appropriate context and uses it to try to support an accusation of sin without doing the proper research into the Word of God. If the woman accusing me had done this proper research she would see that 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (the verse that she uses to substantiate her accusation) is not in contradiction to 1 Corinthians 7:13-17. Quite the opposite. The one scripture informs the other. God’s word does not contradict God’s word. It will never contradict itself. This is the fullness and perfection of God’s word.
I have responded fully to her accusation pointing her to the scripture that I have used in this post, however, she has told me that she is not going to listen to it.
It is at the very least worrisome that this woman has an online teaching ministry. I wonder how she is counseling women who are new believers that are married to non-believers? I pray that they do not seek counsel from her on this matter. Or any matter until she learns how to understand scripture and rightly divide the word.
My counsel to you ladies is this: God's model for marriage is the foundational model for the entire Bible. Christ is the metaphorical bridegroom and the church - born again Chrisitans - are the bride.
God takes marriage very seriously and wants nothing to pull it apart, even a marriage to a non-believer.
If you are a newly born again Christian God instructs you to remain with your non-believing husband, to love him, to show him Christ through your heart and your actions, to pray for him and to submit to him.
Through your example he may very well come to Christ on his own.
As always God’s will be done in this and every other matter.
If you have any more questions please don’t hesitate to reach out to me.
Back in May I was doing a random Google search, the exact topic of which I forget but it was something to do with mediumship. A blog post by a psychic medium named Blair Robertson came up in the search results and it caught my eye so I read it. I link it here in case you want to read it:
The Truth about God and Mediums
Blair has, as of this writing,186 comments under that article. Four of these comments refute what Blair says is the truth about the Bible and mediums and, to his credit he has chosen to publish those comments (important note: he has to approve all blog comments before they are posted).
The rest of the comments - 182 of them - praise Blair for 'speaking the truth' in this article, agree with what he has written, tell him how awesome he is, denigrate 'so called' Christians, call Christians holy rollers, hypocrites and religious zealots, and make various (and unfortunately totally erroneous) statements about what is OK with and who Jesus is. It's quite apparent that Blair's fans are rallying to support his interpretation of scripture.
Now you would think that someone stepping out with such authority on his blog as to what the Word of God is saying about mediumship would welcome a discussion on the topic, especially since he asserts himself with such certainty and confidence in his interpretation.
That just makes sense, right? Why would he shy away from discussion on this topic?
After all he makes some pretty definitive statements about the Bible, Jesus and in characterizing Christians. Here are a few excerpts that I quote directly from his article:
OK I'm back...
There are so many things from a Biblical perspective that are totally wrong with what Blair is saying in the above statements that it would take a very long article to address them all. I'm not going to get into that here.
But please do notice the objective and fair way that he refers to Christians using statements such as "religious folks who attempt 'Bible Quote Kung Fu'", "bible thumpers lose their minds", and "a complete meltdown with the Bible slinging hypocrite".
Not very respectful way to talk about Christians. Or anyone for that matter. Perhaps it is the case that Blair has only crossed paths with nasty people who identify as Christians. Whatever the case may be Blair has certainly chosen not to take the high road here. At least not from what I read.
Anyone who wants to use the Bible as their source of truth needs to have READ the Bible, have some understanding of it and take GREAT CARE with their exegesis of it. (Exegesis is a fancy word for interpretation).
It takes many years of study to become anywhere close to speaking with the level of confidence that Blair exudes and asserts in his own exegesis of the scripture he is pointing us to.
Furthermore a person who is trying to interpret a Bible passage would do well to use a little wisdom and seek guidance from someone who really knows the Bible to see how his or her interpretation (in this case Blair's) stands up rather than making assumptions and stretching and pulling the scripture to fit what he or she wants it to mean with a 'case closed, discussion over, that's what it means' attitude.
Blair is so confident that he makes a definitive statement: (and I quote him) "It can only mean one thing: Jesus himself was a medium." while criticizing those who disagree with him and try to point him to other places in the Bible that refute his interpretation (and I quote him) "Of course, this is where the bible thumpers lose their minds. They'll come back with dozens of quotes to argue against it.".
I wonder if Blair's confidence arises from many years reading and studying the Bible?
If it does then he would surely know this verse in Psalm 34:13
"Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from telling lies."
And this one from Psalm 4:24:
"Keep your mouth free of perversity; keep corrupt talk far from your lips."
I disagree with how Blair has handled the Matthew 17 scripture so I decided to respond to his blog post. And, because I'm not a nasty, horrible Christian I respectfully expressed my disagreement.
This is what I wrote:
I stumbled upon this post through a random Google search and it caught my eye. I thought I’d pop in to add some more context for that Bible verse that you are working with here and to add a few comments of my own.
In referring to Matthew 17 you say "Think about it. It can only mean one thing: Jesus himself was a medium.”
First let me quote that verse here so people reading this can see what it says. It’s important to always quote what the Bible is saying rather than paraphrasing the things we have read. That way we have the accurate words of the Bible which speak for themselves.
But first let me share that I am a Christian and I read and study the Bible on a daily basis, which is imperative for anyone who wants to know what’s actually in there and use it to prove things to others. Paraphrasing verses out of the bigger context of the Bible doesn’t provide the deeper truth that lies therein. Taking a few words here and there then drawing grand conclusions, especially when we are attempting to guide, teach or convince others in some way, is not a good thing to do.
So here goes: This is from the New International Version. And I’m going to give you more of the verses so that we can see the broader context:
“After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John, the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. There he transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became white as the light. Just then appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
Peter said to Jesus, ‘Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters - one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.
While he was speaking, a bright cloud enveloped them, and a voice from the cloud said, ‘This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!’ “ Matthew 17:1-5
The one very important thing that this event is revealing is that Jesus is the Son of God. We are seeing Jesus in all his glory here. That ‘one thing’ as you say is not that Jesus is a medium. See the difference? Out of context or paraphrased that most amazing revelation to Peter, James and John on that mountain, that Jesus is the SON of God, would be missed. Or misinterpreted or misunderstood. Notice, too, that Jesus is joined by two very important men of the Bible in Moses and Elijah. This, too, is very significant.
I highly doubt that those three apostles descended the mountain after that saying “Wow… God is revealing to us that Jesus is a medium!”
You are absolutely correct when you say that this is a ‘massive Bible moment’. It is indeed. Jesus did this most amazing event exactly ONCE. It was a unique event in the gospels and is also recorded in the gospels of Mark and Luke. Jesus did not announce it to anyone and it was never repeated. So when you note that it is a massive Bible moment, I am in full agreement with you on that! Which makes it a very very special event, indeed. It may seem OK to take it out of context and use it as confirmation that Jesus is a medium and so mediumship is being blessed in the Bible. But that would be, well, just wrong.
You’d need to find other clear and direct verses in the Bible where Jesus performs mediumship in front of his disciples the way he demonstrated miracles to large groups of people who were following him, showing them that mediumship is, indeed, OK to practice. That it was, indeed, something that Jesus actually did. Then you'd have a solid argument for your position.
This, however, doesn’t happen in the Bible. Jesus does not do this. You don’t have to believe me, you can simply read the Bible to see if you can find these events for yourself. And if you did find them you could then quote directly from the Bible, chapter and verse, to support your claims about mediumship. That is the right and respectful way to use the Bible. Especially if you are wanting to share the truth about mediumship in the Bible, which is what you are claiming that you want to do.
So I just wanted to add this to the discussion, because it is very important. Especially if you want to use the truth of the Bible to demonstrate that mediumship is ok to practice.
I hear you on the ‘bible thumpers’ quoting verses out of context. That can be very annoying and frustrating. That is why it behooves those of us who want to use the Bible to support our claims to read the whole thing in order to see the story unfold from start to finish so we can gain deeper understanding what it is that God does want for us and why there are many things that he does not want us doing or engaging in.
In closing I want to say that this is what I have been doing. I used to practice mediumship. Through gaining a deeper understanding of the Bible by continuing to read and study it, I have walked away from mediumship, because I now know that it is not OK with God. And that did not come by taking a Bible verse here or there out of context. It came from reading the whole darn thing! Oh and I don’t belong to any religion, either. I am spiritual, not religious. Just like you. :)
Blair has chosen to moderate all comments that are on his blog, a practice I wholeheartedly agree with, as I do it myself. Moderation allows blog owners to choose not to post disrespectful comments, comments that use profane or foul language, comments that are way off topic, inflammatory or spam.
I wrote and posted my comment sometime in May. A couple of weeks later I checked back in with the blog post to see if Blair had, perhaps responded to my comment. I discovered that he had not yet posted my comment.
So I waited a couple of days then checked back in again. I saw that a couple of new comments had been posted since my last check in. This was a good sign because it meant that Blair was reading and approving comments for this post.
I checked in again, now about six weeks later. My comment still had not been approved for publication. So on June 29th I followed up with another blog comment asking him why.
Here is what I wrote:
I posted a comment on this post “The Truth About God and Mediums" sometime back in May 2019 providing more context for the Bible verses that you are using in order to defend and validate your position on mediumship.
I've noticed that you have posted other comments since that time. You seem to have have chosen, thus far, not to post mine.
I find that interesting. Why would that be? Was my comment disrespectful to you or anyone else or inflammatory in any way?
If I am jumping the gun here and it really is your intention to post my comment but you've not had time in your busy schedule to do so please forgive me. I'll just keep checking in to see if it gets posted at a later date.
Please feel free to email me directly with a few words as to why you chose not to post my comment and where, perhaps, I have breached your comment guidelines or was offensive in any way in expressing my thoughts and take on those verses re: mediumship. I would welcome that. Clarity on your guidelines and what you allow and don't allow in blog comments would be helpful and appreciated.
I notice that you sign off your blog posts with "love and light". I'd 'love' if you could bring some 'light' to why you have not included my comment on your blog. :)
I can be reached at (my personal email was inserted here)
Subsequent visits to his website after sending this second comment to Blair have revealed that neither of my comments has been posted to this blog article as of October 2019.
I am left wondering why Blair has chosen not to post my original comment?
Perhaps he's not as Biblically confident as he tries to appear and is afraid to try to defend his position with scripture?
Perhaps he knows that he is not actually able to defend his assertion about mediumship Biblically and is unwilling to engage in a conversation that would reveal his ignorance to his reading audience.
Or worse, maybe he knows that he is wrong and is intentionally misleading and deceiving people. (Goodness I hope not... I actually don't believe that he would intentionally do this.)
Maybe he just doesn't like talking with level headed Christians.
Perhaps it is simply that once the TRUTH is revealed there is nothing more to say as in when Jack Nicholson's character in A Few Good Men says "You can't handle the truth."
Or, more importantly, as God says in the Bible:
“How many times shall I make you swear that you speak to me nothing but the truth in the name of the Lord?” 1 Kings 22:16
"...that your words may be tested, whether there is truth in you." Genesis 42:16
But Blair uses the Bible to prove the truth so he would know those verses, too. He says so in his blog post title.
After posting this blog - my own here - I sent Blair another comment on that blog. This is it:
Clare here again. I have written a blog post about my experience of commenting twice on your blog and you're choosing not to post my response to your "The Truth About God and Mediums" blog post.
You can find both the blog post and the podcast at:
You are very confident in your interpretation of the Bible with regards to mediums and mediumship.
You also demonstrate a desire to validate mediumship by using the Bible, the Word of God.
I cannot find anywhere in the Bible where mediumship is validated, in fact quite the contrary, I only see that mediumship is what God calls an 'abomination', and that it is not at all validated in the Bible.
I invite you to prove me wrong using the Bible. Dig into the Word and pull out passages and scriptures in which God and / or Jesus actually validate mediumship.
I'll happily engage in a level headed conversation with you. I'd love to get to the bottom of this, because I don't believe that it is your intention to mislead people.
The good news is that if validation of mediumship is actually not in the Bible it then frees you up to say "Ah to heck with it, I like being a medium anyway. I don't need God's approval."
However you do display a desire to prove mediumship Biblically, to believe and assert that you know the "The Truth about God and Mediums" and a confidence that you can and as I've just said, I have to believe that you would rather get to the truth than intentionally mislead people.
Let's have a discussion.
PS: If I hear from Blair Robertson I will let y'all know!
People in the New Age - and, even many folks who are not in the New Age - are often very, very confused as to who Jesus Christ REALLY is.
That's because there is a lot of deception about who Jesus is, propagated by good people who mean well, especially in the New Age.
Jesus Christ IS NOT:
Jesus Christ is THE ONLY Son of God - THE ONE AND ONLY God of the Universe. The only place you will learn about who Jesus Christ really is and what He did to secure your salvation and give you the gift of eternal life with God is… in the Bible.
Let me repeat: the Bible is the ONLY place you will learn the TRUTH about Jesus Christ.
You won’t learn the truth about Jesus in a book by Deepak Chopra.
Or because of something Oprah said.
...Or something your New Age teacher said.
Or in an elaborately produced, slick movie on Netflix. (wow... look at those sparkly blue eyes and that blond shoulder length hair... how dreamy…)
Or in a YouTube video about Jesus.
Nope. Only the Bible holds the TRUTH about Jesus Christ.
Why? Because the Bible is God telling you directly through His Word everything you need to know about everything in life, including (and most especially) Jesus Christ.
In fact… Jesus Christ is the ENTIRE reason for the Bible. (Little known fact there for you…)
Does it make you feel uncomfortable when you read what I've just said about Jesus?
If so, perhaps it is time to ask yourself why.
Because resistance and discomfort is really, really useful information.
People who want to grow in truth take the time to inquire into a negative, uncomfortable or resistance response when they hear the name ‘Jesus’ to try find out why.
Meet the REAL Jesus
Many people want to read the Bible.
But... they don't know where to start.
Because it seems like such daunting task. There's a lot of pages in that there Bible. And that is rather intimidating.
I've been there.
And that's why I'm here for you.
Even if you’ve had only one brief fleeting thought that has said “Read the Bible” … that, my friend is God speaking to you.
Yes, that ONE and ONLY God of the Universe.
I am now offering a 30 (or 60) day day journey through the Bible with me as your 1:1 mentor, reading buddy, Bible reading friend.
We’re going to crack open that book with the uppercase words “HOLY BIBLE” stamped on the front.
We will walk together through the New Testament in an easy to read translation. You’ll complete a manageable and brief reading assignment each day (or every second day if you choose the 60 day program).
We'll share our thoughts and insights about what we've read with each other.
I’ll be right there with you every step of the way.
Reading the word of God is the only way to learn about the word of God.
Discovering Jesus in the Bible is one of the most amazing journeys you will ever take. It’s a journey that could very well change your life. And your afterlife.
Let's crack that Bible and discover our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ... together.
There is no charge for this program. No hidden agenda. No strings attached.
All you need to do is show up.
Time's ticking, folks. It's time to meet the REAL Jesus Christ.
If you are interested in learning more please email me at email@example.com and I will get back to you with more details.
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Hi, I'm Clare!
I used to be a practicing psychic medium, mediumship teacher and new age blogger. That all changed when I was saved by Jesus Christ in March 2019. Here is where I share the joy and freedom of the saving grace of Jesus Christ.